Category talk:General concepts
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Category:General_concepts seems to have been created just as some sort of placeholder. Most of its articles are either lame or stubs, and nobody seems to want to add this category to the main page. If we got rid of this category we could re-assign any articles in it worth salvaging. Tanstaafl 21:54, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. It is indeed a placeholder for articles that describe general concepts. It's important that we have somewhere that explains what (for example) HTML or a user agent is when we have to mention it in the real articles.--Np 22:23, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. We could always link to Wikipedia for definitions of HTML CSS or other general concepts. Articles that apply to Mozilla applications like Kill application can be moved to the appropriate application categories. (Talkback is already in application categories). Alice Wyman 02:10, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
- The reason we're trying to to keep them out of the application categories is that it's somewhat confusing the way that Mediawiki presents categories and articles on the same page - the user may be lead to think the the list of articles for a category includes the articles in the subcategories, but they don't. A general concepts category allows us to categorize articles somewhere while not leading to confusion.--Np 21:27, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
- By we're trying to to keep them out of the application categories do you mean individual "general concept" articles like HTML and CSS that have nothing specifically to do with Mozilla applications? That's why I think that no separate KB articles should exist for these concepts, or at least no new article, since we have enough problems keeping on top of Mozilla-related articles. Wikipedia links for this type of content would be much more current and detailed. I'm proposing to redirect those general concept articles which cannot be properly classified under another category to a page like this one, which merges a number of those concept articles together with enough other information specific to Firefox, Thunderbird or Mozilla Suite that the consolidated article can be classified under the application categories. At that point, the Category:General_concepts category can be removed. As for remaining articles that I didn't include in the consolidated article, do we really need an article like Internet Explorer or the "Spelling" articles? How often do you link to these, or to Commonly used words? I would propose to delete them if they can't be redirected or incorporated elsewhere. Alice Wyman 22:06, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
- The reason we're trying to to keep them out of the application categories is that it's somewhat confusing the way that Mediawiki presents categories and articles on the same page - the user may be lead to think the the list of articles for a category includes the articles in the subcategories, but they don't. A general concepts category allows us to categorize articles somewhere while not leading to confusion.--Np 21:27, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
- How about we keep the general concepts category, but replace most of the articles in it per User:Alice_Wyman/Proposed_article ? That would reduce it basicly to the commonly used words, quality feedback agent, and imap articles plus the new article. I don't agree with the idea of propagating the merged article in each applications category, that just adds more clutter. Tanstaafl 22:25, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
- I'll create the merged article then, and place it in the general concepts category to get the ball rolling. Others can decide whether or not the new article can also be classified under any other categories. I'll also leave it to others to decide about redirecting or eliminating unneeded articles in the category. Alice Wyman 13:48, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- How about we keep the general concepts category, but replace most of the articles in it per User:Alice_Wyman/Proposed_article ? That would reduce it basicly to the commonly used words, quality feedback agent, and imap articles plus the new article. I don't agree with the idea of propagating the merged article in each applications category, that just adds more clutter. Tanstaafl 22:25, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
- I suggested redirecting the Bugzilla HTML and CSS articles to start, either to Wikipedia or to the merged article, whichever people prefer. See the Talk pages Talk:CSS, Talk:HTML and Talk:Bugzilla. How about SVG also? any others? Alice Wyman 18:28, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, and if the proposal to delete the category is dead, as it seems to be, someone should remove the vfd from the category page, and any further discussion should be moved to the Category:General_concepts Talk page. Alice Wyman 20:43, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
