Talk:PalmSync - Thunderbird

Can anyone be more explicit on how to install that plugin? I don't see what instruction to follow after having downloaded tèhe .xpi file. Thanks in advance, Regis

Well, I went through the install as described in the article. nothing. then I installed the sidebar contacts. nothing. then for some reason i did a soft reset of my palm. Ta-da! a sync! however, apparently there have been *no* further syncs and no errors reported in the logfile! What the heck is going on? I'd love to be able to rely on this sync to keep my email addresses with me and up-to-date, but if I can't get re-synced, I'd go back to storing my addresses in the Palm Desktop as a backup to the handheld.

I also note that the palm sync extensions doesn't show up in my list of extensions, but that the sidebar contacts do. Is that deliberate or an indication of a problem?

TIA, David

Uninstalling Palmsync and restoring sync to Palm Desktop

I want to go back to syncing my Palm addresses with Palm desktop, but cannot seem to do it. When I installed the Palmsync extension, the Palm addressbook conduit disappeared from Hotsync manager, leaving Mozilla sync in its place. Upon uninstalling Palmsync, I can't get the Palm desktop conduit back, even by uninstalling and reinstalling Palm desktop. Is there a registry setting that I need to edit? Also, I'd be happy to experiment with the TB synchronization if I could also sync with Palm Desktop addresses alternatively, as some in the forums have reported. In my case, however, the Palm conduit vanished as soon as the Mozilla one was installed, and this rules out such an alternating strategy. Any hints on (1) how to get the Palm addressbook conduit back and (2) how it can coexist with the Mozilla conduit if I reinstall that? Thank you.

-- Hello, I has the same problem. To resolve it, my solution was to execute the file HotSyncWizard.exe from the PalmOne directory. After a new synchronisation it was OK.

== The palmsync.xpi installation page does warn that you can't go back once you have installed it. I found that the only way to go back was to delete the extension and then delete and re-install (not just repair) the hotsync manager.

Other synchs sacrificed by PalmSynch?

I want to synch my Palm contacts with TB address book, and vice versa.

If I replace the Palm desktop with Palmsynch, it seems that I will sacrifice other syncs to calendar, media, documents and such. Does anyone know what is synched with Palmsynch, and what is not?

Thank you.

Does PalmSync really synchronize? Yes it does !

When I found palmsync I was pretty happy. It required a significant amount of time to establish functionality. After spending that time, I was able to have the application work, however I cannot provide guidance on what my actions were to obtain the funcionality. The first synchronization failed. Now synchronization is getting better. Synchronization is one way from Palm to Thunderbird. From Thunderbird to Palm a new entry is created, creating duplicates, instead of replacing or modifying the entry. Another issue is the alternative e-mail address in Thunderbird's address book. This alternative email address is not copied to the contact information on Palm, because there is no such category in Palm's address book. (anyway it could go to any Other...)

A possible future feature enhancement is the election to synchronize with either Thunderbird or Palm Desktop. -Kaadji-

03/15 : I finally managed to make it synchronize correctly. Once again I don't know what I did. It just seems it just has to screw itself up a couple times and ends up working correctly...

03/26 : Unfortunately, for me, it doesn't work...I envy you guys. I use TB 1.0, Palm OS 5+, Win XP SP2 and a Treo 650. Did you guys use the same config as I have? --- vinz

-Kaadji- : i'm using TB 1.0, Palm OS 5+, WIn XP SP1 and a Sony Clié

Is Syncing a Deal Breaker?

I am very excited about the possiblility of dumping MS Outlook and going completly open source, but the Palm sync issues between TB and my Treo 600 are making me crazy. Are there any groups out there working to update the palmsync.xpi? If so, is there anything I can do to help with their efforts? I am using Win XP sp2 / TB v1.0 / PalmOne Treo 600 / Palm OS v5.2.1 In short, I have followed the various postings and I've still had not a single address-book sync.

I truly look forward to helping get this important function up and running for us all!

Thunderbird- Palm Sync

So I'm not the only that has thrown in the towel on Outlook. I love Thunderbird, however I can't get the Palm sync to work. I've done all three steps; the Palm sync download, the contacts side bar download and copying the "CondMgr.dll" and "HSAPI.dll" files to my Palm folder. They all seemed to install but nothing is syncing.

Any ideas?

Thanks Sylvia

Hey I got it to work!!! I had to install Palm Versa Mail- that synced with my mail and addresses. I had a version of Mozilla browser on my computer for testing so I had to uninstall it, and remove a testing copy of Eudora. But then it worked. Unfortunately it only works one way, Thunderbird to Palm any changes I have made to my e-mails or addresses on my Palm are not updated in Thunderbird. I'll keep digging. Sylvia

More testing- I just noticed that I am able to send an e-mail from my Palm that works. I wonder if it isn't a setting the Thunderbird software that is blocking the updates from the Palm?

update- I have found an easy way to update my addresses. I enter them into the Palm Desktop and then just e-mail the vcard to myself. I open the e-mail in Thunderbird double click to open the Vcard and voila it's automatically inserted into my address book. You just have to remember that any edit you make must be done in the Palm address book and then go through the same process.

Eventually got sync working

Much as the experience described above, I could not get sync working after multiple attempts. I just wanted to add that I took a couple of steps that may have independently or in combination got it working: in HotSync Manager (taskbar): Custom | Mozilla Address Book | Change, I set the option to "Handheld Overwrites Desktop". I have several palm user accounts and I adjusted two out of three (left my wife's account alone [a wise move!]).

Around the same time I downloaded/installed Contacts Sidebar (0.5) - that alone may have done the trick.

Hope this helps.

OD (26-Avr-2005) > Yes indeed that made the trick for me as well. Note that this is in contradiction to the developer's notes

Still no joy

I have been following this thread and still no luck with my Treo. The versamail sounded promising but that only works with Tungsten devices. I have removed and reinstalled the Contacts Sidebar with no progress. Now, I notice that my Palm HotSync manager will not allow me to change the Mozilla function, Handheld Overwites Desktop cannot be changed.

I know that it seems trivial, but getting the sync to work is very important, especially when I see how difficult it is to change back to the Palm Desktop.

This will be great if: 1) We get the palmsync bug resolved AND Sunbird becomes syncable 2) The PalmDesktop ever breaks down and includes an email client.

Many thanks to all who make suggestions here.

Nearly got it working...

I've been struggling with getting this to work on my Tungsten T3 and have half got it working. Here is my how-to. 1. Install palmsync.xpi 2. Install the contacts sidebar 3. In the 'custom' option on the hotsync icon in the system tray, set contacts to 'do nothing' and Mozilla address book to 'synchronize files' (make sure you then set these as default so they stay that way). It seems to work then but only one way, i.e. changes made in thunderbird are reflected in my palm but not the other way around. Altering the options for Mozilla address book doesn't seem to help this at all. Does anyone know what I could do to make this a truly 2-way sync?

Removing PalmSync

Hi!

I have found some pointers on how to restore original behaviour.

First, to get rid of the conduit configuration in Palm Desktop, take a look here:

(From http://www.thecapras.org/mcapra/ThunderbirdSync.html, rights belong to site owner)

Make sure that your Palm registry settings are correct:
   * Run regedit
   * Go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\U.S. Robotics\Pilot Desktop\ApplicationX
         o Where X is an integer - look for the one that has a value "Name" with data of "Mozilla Address Book"
   * Modify "Conduit" to point to c:\Program Files\MozillaThunderbird\mozABConduit.dll 

--> Thus, if you delete the ApplicationX folder, Palm Desktop forgets all about the mozilla/thunderbird conduit.

Now, the question remains: how to restore the original behaviour. I hoped the ApplicationX folder would cover the original settings, but those were actually deleted. Luckily, I have two computers running Palm Desktop for the same Palm, so I can compare the registry values. Will post later when I do have them.

Best Luck.

Edit: Found a way to restore the original configuration, after removing the ApplicationX folder. No more reinstall of Hotsync Manager

 * Shutdown Hotsync Manager
 * Well, take a command prompt, go into your palm root folder (Ex: c:\Program Files\Sony Handheld\)
 * run hotsync -r
 * restart Hotsync Manager
 * Done! The Handheld device now resyncs with the Palm Desktop software, back to usual config. 

Enjoy. Olivier Engelkes

Got it to work after some struggling

After reading this page, I installed the conduit, set the default behavior to "Handheld overwrites Desktop" as I was afraid to screw up all my addresses. It didn't sync. I checked the registry and the dll files per the comments above and everything looked OK. So I then closed hotsync manager, uninstalled Contacts Sidebar, restarted TB (1.0.2), reinstalled Contacts Sidebar, restarted TB, and voila it synced! The only hiccup was that TB crashed immediately after sync when I clicked on Address Book. But on going back in, everything looks to be OK (fingers crossed). Pretty funny in light of the comment about Contacts Sidebar not being needed on the main page. Hope this helps someone.

Jack Southworth

Future plans for two-way sync and maintain Palm desktop sync

This looks promising, but I don't want to give up syncing with the Palm desktop. And, sync would be better if it were 2-way with the Thunderbird address book.

Any plans to includes this features in future version? Thanks, Wayne

Wish list for PalmSync

I tried PalmSync a while back and while it did sync my address book to my Sony Clie, I had problems with duplicates whenever I edited something and I really didn't want to give up the ability to sync to Palm Desktop (I have another PDA that syncs to Palm Desktop and can't sync directly to my Clie; if I had kept MS Outlook, I could have kept both my PDAs synched with each other). It is now November 2005 and I don't see any dates on any of the posts in here, so I have no way of knowing if any of it is current. Is this extension still being worked on or maintained at all? I am interested in the following capabilities:

1. Sync emails to Clie Mail 2. Sync Thunderbird address book to Clie address book as well as to Palm Desktop address book 3. Full synchronization--when I update an address in Thunderbird, it should update that address in my Clie, not make a duplicate entry; same for updating an address in the Clie then synching to Thunderbird

I suspect, based on my experience with synching to Outlook, that it might not be possible to sync to both Thunderbird and Palm Desktop for the address book. If that's the case, is there any way to set it up so that the conduit can be switched on demand?

Finally, if this extension is no longer being maintained, is there any other extension out there that would do what I want?

Thanks, Kira

Hmmm no luck with TB 1.5

New to TB I installed release 1.5 and then PalmSync (apparently the latest relese). I use HotSync 4.0.2 to sync w/ a tungsten W. - At first, installation went very fine but... nothing seems to happen. - After creating a TB profile with the exact same name as the Palm profile name things go a bit better:

   - sync is attempted, 
   - no error message on the screen, 
   - no records exchanged, 
   - from time to time an error in the PALM log (110C)
   - in the Palmsync log, just this:
          ------------ START OF PALM SYNC ------------ at Sun Nov 27 15:55:03 2005
          Getting moz AB List ... 

My guess is that now a library is called but not found, for some strandge reason. I did all the steps mentionned here : http://www.thecapras.org/mcapra/ThunderbirdSync.html#contacts with no success. Contacts sidebar is not compatible with TB 1.5 and the beta sidebar 5+ does not want to install on my system... Has anyone got Palmsync to work w/ TB 1.5? If yes, what's the magic recipe?

Strangely enough, the palmsync package, once the install is finished, disappear from the "extensions" window. Is that normal behaviour ??

Thanks all Jean-Pierre.

>once the install is finished, disappear from the "extensions" window. Is that normal behaviour ??

yes

Jean-Pierre, did you resolve your problems? If not, please revsit the kb article and check for or create a new discussion at the Thunderbird forum. http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=28