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I'm definitely all for this page being protected. I do have a few comments though:

Shouldn't there be a category listed here for information about the Mozilla Knowledge Base? Copyright notices? "About"? Rules and conventions? Help text? We could put all of this under one category -- right now it's a bit scattered around. For example, the "how to edit" and "rules" pages are linked at the top, and there's a nearly empty MozillaZine Knowledge Base:About page linked under "Appendix". (Speaking of which, some of these pages use space-colon-space, and some use a simple colon. Is this just a mistake?)

Second, I think it's confusing to have the header of the categories be a link to a separate page, not to a listing of the contents of the category. For example, the Introduction header is both a link and a category heading. I think it would be far more intuitive for users if the heading were unlinked, and the relevant links were put below. Even worse, the Intro and Intro : Summary pages that are linked in this manner are redundant, and seem to overlap. This is pretty confusing.

What is everyone else's opinion on all this? Adam Conover 17:54, 19 Feb 2004 (PST)


Just managed to compile Firefox from source and I thought to put compile instructions into knowledge base. How ever, it seems that we don't have developer section around. All thought, compile instructions could go under installation instructions too...

Should we have page for developers and page for installation instructions (respectively for each product, of course)?

Why don't you put it in firefox:hints and tips? Just add a section like: make firebird even faster? build it yourself using optimizations

Heroist 11:34, 11 Feb 2004 (PST)

jgraham: Can we have a Gecko section on the front page? I want to do things like "Truetype MathML fonts under Linux" which aren't app specific.

Neuromancer: Re: putting it in hints and tips: doesn't really fit with the other tips. a dev category makes more sense

I have to say I agree with the sugestion for a developer section, there's definitely information that should be here but shouldn't be in the way of end user support rparle

michaell 16 Feb: I just fixed the links in the "worth a bookmark" section, but I don't see the point in having these. The same links already exist further up the page.

Navigation should be incorporated, I think this is easier done using the current category scheme in the 'private' wiki code in a generic way then for every wiki page anew. Navigation means I can go up in the structure of categories to it's base Heroist Illustration on top of this page


Developers

help for hackers is a contamination, please revert to:

Dev

help for hackers

Too make sure the subtitle is informative. Heroist

or make it

Development

help for hackers

Go with "Development". "Dev" is completely uninformative. Adam Conover 09:15, 20 Feb 2004 (PST)

Doesn't the subtitle completely, inform anybody about the purpose of the page? I think Dev is a seriously cooler title than the smudgy: developer. (cooler=better :-) Heroist

Well, "Dev" is an abbreviation, and less easy to understand than "Developers" or "Development". The point of the KB is to help people find information quickly and easily, not to be cool. In the same way, the mirrors page used to say "mirrors++" instead of "Add a mirror", which was fine as a programmer's in-joke, but was unintelligible to anyone who didn't know how to program. Adam Conover 13:14, 20 Feb 2004 (PST)

ALL hackers know how to program; LoL

I guess now it's just a case of intended audience, which coincides with the relevance of the proposed subject.

If the audience is educated hackers, I suggest dev, if the audience is mainstream, I suggest development. Dev should be for educated hackers, all trivia should reside in other categories, tips and tricks

If not, I suggest there should still be a separate category for serious dev documentation in which in-jokes are required. That category would be dev.

Otherwise change the subtitle to developers go here

So it is not actually strange to close the dev category slightly to mainstream audience, we do not offer cvs access on the frontpage either.

Moreover since this page is a wiki, it is very suitable for developers to maintain some sort of documentation of their project here, since it can be updated alongside coding practice. My view of a dev category corresponds more with this type of theme then the current development idealogy. Dev should open up the mozilla hacking to people, ofcourse with a certain threshhold.

(I would encourage even elaborate compilation instructions on the tips and tricks page underneath something like: improve firefox performance)

Heroist 20:24, 20 Feb 2004 (PST)


Poor search engine Is there any way to make improvements to the search engine? If you search for a word which happens to be in the title of one or more pages then you are taken straight to one of those pages and so are unable to see any other search results. For example, searching for "password" takes you straight to Firefox_:_FAQs_:_Master_password_settings so that you can't see other search results such as Thunderbird_:_FAQs_:_Set_a_Master_Password. Wildhart 08:40, 20 Feb 2004 (PST)

LoL, you just have to click Search instead of go Heroist


Marketing

I propose adding a Marketing section. Yes? Yes but a different title?

Further, if we do add such a section, I propose starting it off with a transfer of content from http://wiki.mozdev.org:8080/cgi-bin/mozdev-wiki.pl?ProjectMarketing. This was something I began developing a while back, then life intervened. No? raiph 22:54, 13 Apr 2004 (PDT)

This being a support website, I don't see why Marketing has to come here. -hao2lian