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Previous discussion before "Subpages" deleted because they're old. As always, they're archived in page history. --hao2lian, 2004-01-25
 
 
I'm definitely all for this page being protected. I do have a few comments though:
 
Shouldn't there be a category listed here for information ''about'' the Mozilla Knowledge Base? Copyright notices? "About"? Rules and conventions? Help text? We could put all of this under one category -- right now it's a bit scattered around. For example, the [[MozillaZine Knowledge Base : Formatting | "how to edit"]] and [[Rule | "rules"]] pages are linked at the top, and there's a nearly empty [["About" | MozillaZine Knowledge Base:About]] page linked under "Appendix". (Speaking of which, some of these pages use space-colon-space, and some use a simple colon. Is this just a mistake?)
 
Second, I think it's confusing to have the header of the categories be a link to a separate page, not to a listing of the contents of the category. For example, the Introduction header is both a link and a category heading. I think it would be far more intuitive for users if the heading were unlinked, and the relevant links were put below. Even worse, the [[Intro]] and [[Intro : Summary]] pages that are linked in this manner are redundant, and seem to overlap. This is pretty confusing.
 
What is everyone else's opinion on all this? [[User:Adam Conover|Adam Conover]] 17:54, 19 Feb 2004 (PST)
 
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Just managed to compile Firefox from source and I thought to put compile instructions into knowledge base. How ever, it seems that we don't have developer section around. All thought, compile instructions could go under installation instructions too...
 
Should we have page for developers and page for installation instructions (respectively for each product, of course)?
 
Why don't you put it in firefox:hints and tips?
Just add a section like:
''make firebird even faster? build it yourself using optimizations''
 
[[User:Heroist|Heroist]] 11:34, 11 Feb 2004 (PST)
 
jgraham: Can we have a Gecko section on the front page? I want to do things like "Truetype MathML fonts under Linux" which aren't app specific.
 
Neuromancer: Re: putting it in hints and tips: doesn't really fit with the other tips. a dev category makes more sense
 
I have to say I agree with the sugestion for a developer section, there's definitely information that should be here but shouldn't be in the way of end user support [[User:Finuvir|rparle]]
 
michaell 16 Feb: I just fixed the links in the "worth a bookmark" section, but I don't see the point in having these.  The same links already exist further up the page.
 
Navigation should be incorporated, I think this is easier done using the current
category scheme in the 'private' wiki code in a generic way then for every wiki page
anew. Navigation means I can go up in the structure of categories to it's base [[User:Heroist|Heroist]] Illustration on top of this page
 
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==Developers==
''help for hackers''
is a contamination, please revert to:
==Dev==
''help for hackers''
 
Too make sure the subtitle is informative.  [[User:Heroist|Heroist]]
 
or make it
==Development==
''help for hackers''
 
Go with "Development". "Dev" is completely uninformative. [[User:Adam Conover|Adam Conover]] 09:15, 20 Feb 2004 (PST)
 
Doesn't the subtitle completely, inform anybody about the purpose
of the page? I think Dev is a seriously ''cooler'' title than the smudgy:
''developer''. (cooler=better :-) [[User:Heroist|Heroist]]
 
Well, "Dev" is an abbreviation, and less easy to understand than "Developers" or "Development". The point of the KB is to help people find information quickly and easily, not to be cool. In the same way, the [[mirrors]] page used to say "mirrors++" instead of "Add a mirror", which was fine as a programmer's in-joke, but was unintelligible to anyone who didn't know how to program. [[User:Adam Conover|Adam Conover]] 13:14, 20 Feb 2004 (PST)
 
ALL hackers know how to program; LoL
 
I guess now it's just a case of intended audience, which coincides with the
relevance of the proposed subject.
 
If the audience is educated hackers, I suggest dev,
if the audience is mainstream, I suggest development.
Dev should be for educated hackers, all trivia should reside in other
categories, ''tips and tricks''
 
If not, I suggest there should still be a separate category for serious dev
documentation in which in-jokes are required. That category would be dev.
 
Otherwise change the subtitle to ''developers go here''
 
So it is not actually strange to close the dev category slightly to mainstream
audience, we do not offer cvs access on the frontpage either.
 
Moreover since this page is a wiki, it is very suitable for developers to
maintain some sort of documentation of their project here, since it can be updated alongside coding practice. My view of a dev category corresponds more with this type of theme then the current development idealogy. Dev should open up the mozilla
hacking to people, ofcourse with a certain threshhold.
 
(I would encourage even elaborate compilation instructions on the tips and tricks page
underneath something like: ''improve firefox performance'')
 
[[User:Heroist|Heroist]] 20:24, 20 Feb 2004 (PST)
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'''Poor search engine'''
Is there any way to make improvements to the search engine?  If you search for a word which happens to be in the title of one or more pages then you are taken straight to one of those pages and so are unable to see any other search results.
For example, searching for "password" takes you straight to [[Firefox_:_FAQs_:_Master_password_settings]] so that you can't see other search results such as [[Thunderbird_:_FAQs_:_Set_a_Master_Password]]. [[User:Wildhart|Wildhart]] 08:40, 20 Feb 2004 (PST)
 
LoL, you just have to click '' Search''  instead of '' go ''  [[User:Heroist|Heroist]]
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==Marketing==
I propose adding a Marketing section. Yes? Yes but a different title?
 
Further, if we do add such a section, I propose starting it off with a transfer of content from http://wiki.mozdev.org:8080/cgi-bin/mozdev-wiki.pl?ProjectMarketing. This was something I began developing a while back, then life intervened. No?
[[User:Raiph|raiph]] 22:54, 13 Apr 2004 (PDT)




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is there any reason you guys don't have subpages enabled for the main namespace (0) in your MediaWiki preferences (LocalSettings.php, see example in DefaultSettings.php)? This would allow automatic backlinks from "[[/bla]]" pages to their parent pages.--[[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]]
is there any reason you guys don't have subpages enabled for the main namespace (0) in your MediaWiki preferences (LocalSettings.php, see example in DefaultSettings.php)? This would allow automatic backlinks from "[[/bla]]" pages to their parent pages.--[[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]]
: PM Kerz on the forums or email him. I don't think he looks at this page very much.


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Previous discussion before "Subpages" deleted because they're old. As always, they're archived in page history. --hao2lian, 2004-01-25


Subpages

Hiya,

is there any reason you guys don't have subpages enabled for the main namespace (0) in your MediaWiki preferences (LocalSettings.php, see example in DefaultSettings.php)? This would allow automatic backlinks from "/bla" pages to their parent pages.--Eloquence

PM Kerz on the forums or email him. I don't think he looks at this page very much.