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I don't understand why this page was removed. I restored it. Alice Wyman 01:25, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Because Category:Issues (Firefox) has everything this page has without requiring manual editing. This has been planned for a long time and the only reason it took so long to get rid of this page was that the front page still linked to it (it doesn't now).--Np 01:48, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
You say this has been planned for a long time? First I've heard of it, and there was no discussion of any plan to do away with this page in this "Talk" page, where anyone like me who has been editing it all along could read and discuss the plan. In any case, I don't see the harm in leaving this Issues with Firefox page up, for those of us who are using it to find information, even though the front page no longer links to it. There are some links here that point to mozillazine threads, for one. Also, this page has lots more information describing the linked pages ...For example, "Firefox says my profile is in use or that it is already running but not responding" is the Issues With Firefox page's link to profile in use ("profile in use" isn't very descriptive for Firefox 1.5 ). Finally, shouldn't any page planned for removal be listed in the Special Pages section, Pages voted for deletion before it is removed? Alice Wyman 03:19, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
I don't see the harm in leaving it either, but I figured you didn't want to waste your time maintaining it since we have a superior way of categorizing now. As for the profile in use name, perhaps it should be renamed... but that's for discussion in that article's talk page. VFD is only for pages we want actually deleted, and we want this redirected instead because the info exists elsewhere.--Np 06:26, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
I wasn't aware that I was wasting my time maintaining the "Issues with Firefox" page since I didn't know that anyone was planning to remove it. Anyway, I think it's a good idea leave it available as an additional resource as it contains information and links not found in the new Firefox issues page. Alice Wyman 13:55, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

It's a different view. This one is arranged by subject. The other is arranged automatically, more or less alphabetically. This is reachable only by clicking on "Frequently encountered issues, and again on Issues with Firefox. It's illogical and buries this page. <- Posted by AnotherGuest

If you mean that it's illogical that this page isn't linked from the Knowledge Base main page, it was decided earlier to link to the "Categories" pages, at least for Firefox and Thunderbird. I wasn't part of that decision but I think that the reasoning was, this page needs to be manually updated while the Category:Issues (Firefox) page doesn't, since it's automatically generated. Take a look here for the background: Knowledge Base changes#Hot topic—replacing the FAQs and Issues pages with category navigation Alice Wyman 15:26, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
I understand the reason, but it's still poor organization. You don't have a subsection called "Issues..." in a section called "Issues...", because it's unreasonable to expect people to find it there. Oh, well, I don't know what to do about it. Never mind for now. --AnotherGuest.

Changes to "Issues with Firefox" page

See the recent discussion on the Knowledge Base changes page. It was suggested that the Faqs and Issues pages should both contain prominant links to the category pages, notifying the reader that there is more info on the KB than the selection of articles advertised on the FAQ and Issues pages. It was also suggested to emphasize the fact that the Issues page is just a selection. Along those lines, I amended the intro. I also removed the Plugins section (mainly because of duplication... a Plugins section already exists on the FAQs page) and I removed the section "Versions older than 1.0". Alice Wyman 16:27, 7 January 2006 (UTC)